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 Origin of the Hungarian language 
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Liittynyt: 14 Helmi 2011 04:02
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Viesti Origin of the Hungarian language
in the Internet there are a lot of pseudo-scientific views about how Hungarian is not a Uralic language but rather related to Sumerian, Etruscan etc. and how Hungarian was spoken in Central Europe since the Palaeolithic.

Well, considering the scientific results, it still seems most probable that the Magyars of the 9th century AD were the carriers of the Hungarian language.


1. There are no earlier attestations of Hungarian; Hungarian names and words only occur in the Byzantine documents after the Magyar conquest.

2. The ethnonym Magy-ar/Megy-er is phonologically regular cognate of the ethnonym Mansi/Möänsy. Hungarian is also the closest relative of the Ob-Ugric languages compare Hungarian and Mansi:
ölném I would kill ~ äl(ää)naam I would kill.
Comparing to Finnish, for example: that verb U *wila- to kill is not found in Finnish at all; the mode marker *-ne does not mean would but may in Finnish; the person ending of the 1st person singular is not -m but -n in Finnish.

3. There are many archaeological features which connect the Magyars to the Volga-Ural region which has always been Uralic-speaking.

4. There are of course many Turkic loanwords in the language of Magyars, because during their journey from the Volga-Ural region they underwent the strong influence from the Turkic peoples of the steppe. However, Turkic words cannot prove that the language of the Magyars was not Hungarian otherwise even modern Hungarian would not be Hungarian, because it has Turkic loanwords. Besides, there are also Bolghar-Turkic (Pre-Chuvash) loanwords in Hungarian, which means that the Hungarian language arrived from the east at quite a late stage.

5. The Magyars were less numerous than the original inhabitants, but this cannot prove that Hungarian language must precede the Magyars. Similar occasions where elite dominance led to a language shift of a bigger population are numerous; Turkicization of Turkey is one good parallel example.

6. There is no basis in the Palaeolithic continuity theory; the whole method is erroneous, because archaeological continuity cannot prove about linguistic continuity. Besides, archaeological continuity is evident everywhere, even when we know that the language has been shifted to another.
http://www.mv.helsinki.fi/home/jphakkin/Uralic.html

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02 Helmi 2012 05:17
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I wrote a short clarifying article about the Uralic status of Hungarian:

Acquired stupidity epidemic in Hungary: Hungarian not a Uralic language?
http://www.mv.helsinki.fi/home/jphakkin/Hungarian.pdf

Hungarian is not related to Sumerian, Etruscan, Turkic or any other non-Uralic languages. I challenge all those, who claim that Hungarian is related to some other language family than Uralic, to present their so-called "evidence". :)

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mtDNA: H5a1e (Elina Mäkilä 1757 Kittilä >> Riitta Sassali 1843 Sodankylä)


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